theo
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Post by theo on Feb 25, 2013 20:55:59 GMT
4. Youth players aged 17 and under can't have there main skill any more than three higher than there age, if a youth player progress too fast there skill will be frozen until they reach aged 18
So if I had a 17 year old he can only get to maximum 20 rated? or can he get to 20.999?
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Post by garfy on Feb 25, 2013 21:34:30 GMT
20.999
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Post by garfy on Feb 25, 2013 21:39:33 GMT
And on weird scouts how does this happen?
M_Yoshida 15 jpn 2 16 8 9 31 300 300 300 300 Sunderland 5.94M
Sheringham 17 eng 2 5 7 19 21 400 400 400 400 Barcelona 4.82M (basically a 17yo 20 FW with donation)
Looks like this years scouts have produced some wonder kids!!!!
Sheringham, Maldini, Beckenbauer, Rolando Silva, Nathan Dyer and Pezza!
Yes I would have loved just one of them, and I know luck plays a part, but some teams have 2 good uns out there.....
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Post by garfy on Feb 25, 2013 21:45:38 GMT
**** Important****
This is not a pop at Malky - you do a great job and the game is great also. Just a little spreading of the wealth is needed lol
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theo
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Post by theo on Feb 25, 2013 21:49:54 GMT
I think the second skills seems to add a lot to the cost, for exmaple this guy I got:
Midfielder19 19 lat 2 10 21 11 32 600 600 600 600 Benfica 18.14M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 21:58:05 GMT
Here's my two pence worth lol U17 - probably will, even with restrictions? 17 to 20 - hell yeah, cheap as chips and talented! 21 to 25 - 1 in a 100 worth it, but NO! 26 to 30 - No hope in hell. 31+ - are you nuts? My view: U17 - 1 costs 1mil another 4mil ?? 17 to 20 - some scary youth here, if you have the cash! (btw would go as far in saying div 3 teams should get better) 21 to 25 - So unrealistic, couldn't lick the crud off my other youth players boots! 26 to 30 - Should be better, pushing bench warmer at least not veteran reserve. 31+ - No No No, waste of time, should be first team quality easily?
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Post by johnraggett on Feb 25, 2013 22:05:04 GMT
Andie has a good point with his views on scouts.
The older players scouted really should be better, I have and will never scout anyone over the age of 20.
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Post by garfy on Feb 25, 2013 22:09:23 GMT
I did once. Never again
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Post by winzor @ Porto on Feb 25, 2013 22:15:39 GMT
so does anyone else agree on this no donation and no bonuses for 13-15yr old lads when they already have a rule to not go over +3 to their age anyway? what is the diference if they gain more than 1 stat over a season as they can only have that if less than 3 stats over their age?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 22:29:12 GMT
i'LL comment on this later, but know exactly where your coming from!
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Post by garfy on Feb 26, 2013 6:27:44 GMT
Agree Winzor. My scouts were shocking an the one good one I have gets nothing EOS. And I can't improve him either. Awesome. When Barca get some pretty amazing players, pretty sure for two seasons running.
How random is it? Last year there were some beauties about and again this. I get 16 aged 13 skill and 15 aged 14 skill where are my 17 aged 20 skilled players? Surely we each should have a good bad and ugly not all or nothing?
Hate this random stuff cos random never appears so (as a wall tiler!) then we can't donate on the shit we get!
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Post by garfy on Feb 26, 2013 6:29:05 GMT
And yes my opinion would be different if I had a decent scout. But I ain't. For two years and some truly awesome ones out there this year and last.
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Post by Stu on Feb 26, 2013 10:32:41 GMT
so does anyone else agree on this no donation and no bonuses for 13-15yr old lads when they already have a rule to not go over +3 to their age anyway? what is the diference if they gain more than 1 stat over a season as they can only have that if less than 3 stats over their age? Agreed I think 13-15yr olds should get eos bonus as they are capped at age+3 anyway.
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Post by Stu on Feb 26, 2013 11:36:41 GMT
ELITE Hugo 17 fra 19 2 3 1 12 600 600 600 600 Bayern Munich 5.73M Elite +2 C_Vieri 15 ita 2 5 5 15 32 500 500 500 500 Inter Milan 0.59M Elite 0 G_Meazza 15 ita 3 4 6 14 30 800 800 800 800 Inter Milan 0.34M Elite -1 Sheringham 17 eng 2 5 7 19 21 400 400 400 400 Barcelona 4.82M Elite +2 Maldini 17 ita 2 20 7 6 41 600 600 600 600 Barcelona 9.94M Elite +3 Batistuta 17 arg 2 6 7 18 41 500 500 500 500 Santos FC 3.38M Elite +1 Hoekstra 17 hol 3 8 18 9 12 400 400 400 400 Santos FC 5.58M Elite +1 Beckenbauer 17 ger 2 19 7 6 21 700 700 700 700 Santos FC 7.12M Elite +2 Jese 20 arg 2 4 21 6 41 700 700 700 700 Real Madrid 8.04M Elite +1 J_Smith 14 eng 3 8 14 7 21 600 600 600 600 Marseille 1.43M Elite 0 Midfielder02 15 fra 2 7 14 7 31 400 400 400 400 Marseille 0.63M Elite 0 G_Banks 16 eng 19 3 1 3 12 400 400 400 400 Marseille 9.6M Elite +3 Juanfran 18 spa 3 6 6 20 31 300 300 300 300 Real Madrid 6.11M Elite +2 M_Overmars 17 hol 2 9 18 11 32 400 400 400 400 Ajax 6.4M Elite +1 R_Pires 19 arg 3 8 19 14 31 500 500 500 500 Ajax 10.82M Elite 0 Total +16 Division1 M_Balotelli 19 ita 3 9 7 18 21 300 300 300 300 Arsenal 3.49M Division 1 -1 J_Paintsil 19 gha 1 19 10 7 31 800 800 800 800 Arsenal 11.24M Division 1 0 Rolando_Silva 17 bra 3 9 7 19 41 700 700 700 700 Hearts 8.46M Division 1 +2 Pezza 17 bra 1 7 10 21 32 300 300 300 300 Hearts 16.91M Division 1 +4 M_Babbel 20 eng 1 20 8 6 33 500 500 500 500 Newcastle 8.95M Division 1 0 D_Black 18 eng 2 4 18 8 32 500 500 500 500 Newcastle 2.45M Division 1 0 R_Sterling 15 eng 2 5 7 14 41 300 300 300 300 Everton 0.21M Division 1 -1 Nathan_Dyer 17 eng 2 6 9 20 31 500 500 500 500 AS Roma 11.55M Division 1 +3 Robin_Van_Gik 19 hol 2 9 9 20 31 300 300 300 300 AS Roma 11.09M Division 1 +1 Chris 15 eng 1 5 8 14 33 600 600 600 600 AS Roma 0.97M Division 1 -1 Total +7 Division2 Jinky 25 sco 3 7 23 7 41 800 800 800 800 Tottenham 15.32M Division 2 -2 P_Bonner 25 ire 24 1 3 3 21 400 400 400 400 Tottenham 10.91M Division 2 -1 M_Yoshida 15 jpn 2 16 8 9 31 300 300 300 300 Sunderland 5.94M Division 2 +1 G_Ramirez 18 par 2 7 18 8 12 800 800 800 800 Sunderland 5.33M Division 2 0 Matej_Vydra 19 cze 1 9 6 21 13 400 400 400 400 Celtic 10.95M Division 2 +2 C_Battocchio 14 arg 1 8 16 6 23 500 500 500 500 Celtic FC 4.56M Division 2 +2 Danilo 13 bra 2 15 5 6 32 500 500 500 500 FC Porto 0.94M Division 2 +2 G_Fotheringha 17 sco 2 18 7 9 30 600 600 600 600 Rangers FC 5.5M Division 2 +1 A_Little 18 sco 2 7 6 19 21 400 400 400 400 Rangers FC 4.52M Division 2 +1 N_Chalobah 19 eng 2 10 19 4 22 300 300 300 300 Celtic FC 4.76M Division 2 0 J_Beattie 16 eng 1 4 5 16 33 300 300 300 300 AC Milan 1.05M Division 2 0 Total +6 Division3 R_V_Persie 19 hol 2 8 20 11 31 500 500 500 500 Feyenoord 11.16M Division 3 +1 Total +1 The elite teams seem to have had the luck with the scouts. Elite - 15 scouts brought and abs = +16 for a cost of 74.42M ( average cost 4.96M / point per player 1.06 ) Div1 - 10 scouts brought and abs = +7 for a cost of 75.32M ( average cost 7.53M / point per player 0.7 ) Div2 - 11 scouts brought and abs = +6 for a cost of 69.78M ( average cost 6.34M / point per player 0.54 ) Div3 - 1 scouts brought and abs = +1 for a cost of 11.16M ( average cost 11.16M / point per player 1 ) Unwanted scouts ELITE C_Dertyui 20 eng 2 17 5 7 32 300 300 300 300 Real Madrid 0.52M Elite -3 Midfielder14 30 aus 1 9 22 7 20 800 800 800 800 Valencia 10.31M Elite -8 Midfielder16 31 wal 3 6 20 12 22 300 300 300 300 Valencia 5.29M Elite -9 Midfielder20 20 ken 2 9 19 13 31 600 600 600 600 Ajax 10.62M Elite -1 Keeper25 16 sco 14 3 1 1 23 500 500 500 500 Bayern Munich 2.07M Elite -2 Keeper23 16 bos 17 3 2 3 21 400 400 400 400 Bayern Munich 5.73M Elite +1 Forward15 14 arg 2 6 7 13 22 400 400 400 400 Inter Milan 0.1M Elite -1 Forward10 16 nzl 2 8 7 16 31 300 300 300 300 Valencia 3.77M Elite 0 Total -23 Division1 Forward08 20 sen 1 6 7 19 42 400 400 400 400 Everton 4.36M Division 1 -1 Midfielder13 18 por 2 9 18 9 21 600 600 600 600 Hearts 6.88M Division 1 0 Forward12 19 slo 3 9 9 18 22 300 300 300 300 Arsenal 5.23M Division 1 -1 Forward06 16 col 2 6 8 13 33 300 300 300 300 Everton 0.1M Division 1 -3 Midfielder10 15 col 1 5 13 9 22 400 400 400 400 Newcastle 0.1M Division 1 -2 Total -7 Division2 Midfielder21 33 uru 1 9 20 12 31 500 500 500 500 AC Milan 5.39M Division 2 -13 Forward11 16 lat 2 5 7 15 21 400 400 400 400 FC Porto 1.24M Division 2 -1 Forward07 20 wal 3 7 7 19 21 300 300 300 300 Rangers FC 4.44M Division 2 -1 Forward09 15 kor 3 6 8 13 32 400 400 400 400 FC Porto 0.1M Division 2 -2 Defender08 16 aut 1 13 7 6 31 600 600 600 600 AC Milan 0.1M Division 2 -3 Midfielder24 16 par 2 5 14 9 32 800 800 800 800 Sunderland 1.3M Division 2 -2 Total -22 Division3 Defender10 20 par 3 19 6 8 31 300 300 300 300 Schalke 04 4.37M Division 3 -1 Midfielder18 18 ita 2 8 19 10 12 300 300 300 300 Schalke 04 8.43M Division 3 +1 Midfielder25 19 cro 2 7 18 14 21 300 300 300 300 Feyenoord 5.97M Division 3 -1 Midfielder23 15 gre 2 4 14 11 40 700 700 700 700 Feyenoord 1.58M Division 3 -1 Total -2 Looks like going for over 30s is totally pointless as well, 3 players with abs per age of a combined -30 which would cost 20M and a real market value of about 10M.
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Post by bigdan on Feb 26, 2013 12:02:56 GMT
Statto, I salute you! This is a nice way of showing it. It's a bit skewed as Div 3 haven't been very active yet (perhaps that's why they are in Div 3?) Also e.g. I have two players currently sitting in my inbox, a +2 and a -1. Fair point about the 31+, they seem to be very over-rated, 2 or 3 times their real value? However it doesn't make sense to rate them by skill-age, as at that stage of their career you're really only interested in the absolute skill value.
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