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Post by scott777 on Feb 26, 2015 8:45:17 GMT
On phone so cant copy and paste, but that deal is horrific.
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Post by gazza on Feb 26, 2015 9:42:56 GMT
Real Madrid R_O_Donovan 32 aus 1 5 22 12 39 300 78 741 320 Zico 31 bra 2 2 22 8 30 300 657 695 424 +20M
Lyon P_Pogba 18 fra 2 7 21 11 21 400 662 259 823
Not for Ahmed it isn't !!
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Feb 26, 2015 10:20:58 GMT
Usual rules, if managers complain about a deal!
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Feb 26, 2015 10:39:17 GMT
How much you value P_Pogba !!! everybody value the player in different way
I did make this deal with Valencia
5 Feb Real Madrid
D_Abdoun 18 cam 3 21 8 6 30 300 241 584 643 G_Chiellini 18 ita 2 8 19 6 41 700 866 531 883 +15M
Valencia
D_McGrain 25 sco 1 25 12 7 24 300 93 150 307
and Scott complan that I pay lots , So how much you think I value D_Abdoun, and we all know that DF is more expacive then MF.
Malky in any case I dont care, if you want just ignor the deal
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Feb 26, 2015 10:42:16 GMT
I think again we have seen some clasic examples of current managers stripping a club that a newcommer has taken over, they know the deals they are offering are well in favour of there club and now we see Lyon an up and comming breath of fresh air at the end of last season turned into an old folks home after only a few days.
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Post by gazza on Feb 26, 2015 10:44:11 GMT
Nothing wrong with this deal , just horrific in the eyes of Scott, and maybe a deal most other managers wouldn't do, but not a deal requiring overturning.
Good deal for Ahmed.
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Feb 26, 2015 10:44:21 GMT
How much you value P_Pogba !!! everybody value the player in different way I did make this deal with Valencia 5 Feb Real Madrid D_Abdoun 18 cam 3 21 8 6 30 300 241 584 643 G_Chiellini 18 ita 2 8 19 6 41 700 866 531 883 +15M Valencia D_McGrain 25 sco 1 25 12 7 24 300 93 150 307 and Scott complan that I pay lots , So how much you think I value D_Abdoun, and we all know that DF is more expacive then MF. Malky in any case I dont care, if you want just ignor the deal Ahmed i really dont care either! everyone just crack on
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Feb 26, 2015 10:50:46 GMT
Usual rules, if managers complain about a deal! Te Rules !!! You dont care about the rules when at least 12 managers appeal about the deals happened between Bayern and Inter for the best players in the game, and you dont care about the rules when many managers talking about all the dodgy deals for the last few season happend between Feyenoord, Inter and Celtic(everything going to Celtic)
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Post by gazza on Feb 26, 2015 10:54:56 GMT
I think again we have seen some clasic examples of current managers stripping a club that a newcommer has taken over, they know the deals they are offering are well in favour of there club and now we see Lyon an up and comming breath of fresh air at the end of last season turned into an old folks home after only a few days. Stefano or Guaita to go next, hold on to your best players fella !
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Post by scott777 on Feb 26, 2015 11:02:27 GMT
Nothing wrong with this deal , just horrific in the eyes of Scott, and maybe a deal most other managers wouldn't do, but not a deal requiring overturning. Good deal for Ahmed.
So what isn't wrong with it?
Ultimately it comes down to the value of a youth in each managers eyes.
But look at the deal. 20mil.
Is that fair?
Madrid did this deal earlier
Celtic FC J_Gandolfini 20 ita 3 8 23 18 12 300 626 452 354 Real Madrid 33M
Similar age to stat ratio, so lets say 33mil is the value that nobody would bat an eye at.
are you suggesting two x 22 rated players are worth 13 mil between them? They are worth nowhere close. They are nothing players who aren't even young!!!!!!
H_Rodellega 21 col 2 5 8 24 13 700 723 283 830
Sell me this guy then Gazza, 20mil and 2 oap 22 raters, you know youd laugh your tits off at the offer...
Hes a new manager and being taken advantage of massively.
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Post by scott777 on Feb 26, 2015 11:03:11 GMT
Plus, he had 40mil in the bank, so didn't even need money.
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Post by gazza on Feb 26, 2015 11:18:54 GMT
Every manager has their own valuations, some higher than others, some do deals as they are in need of cash, maybe to finance other deals, I have personally sold payers cheaper than I would normally, just to balance books.
Also this guy is a new manager and is maybe being a bit rash with deals, the vultures are circling, help the guy don't take advantage, or maybe he is happy with these deals and has plans for the cash.
Each to their own and all that, but one thing is for sure there are bigger problems within the game concerning other deals that go under the radar in a stealthy manner, they have been pointed out on numerous occasion and seem to be the norm now.
Some deals are blatant stupidity which can be funny, some deals are underhand and harmful to other teams and the game.
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Post by scott777 on Feb 26, 2015 11:21:34 GMT
There may be bigger issues, but until somebody really delves into them, its all just talk right now.
My concern is current transfers, solely because id like to think im half decent at them, and I will always flag them up. If nobody else agrees so be it.
I will ask you this,
As Lyon had 40mil in the bank, and their first team midfield are in their 30s, what does he gain from this deal?
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Post by gazza on Feb 26, 2015 11:39:41 GMT
There may be bigger issues, but until somebody really delves into them, its all just talk right now. My concern is current transfers, solely because id like to think im half decent at them, and I will always flag them up. If nobody else agrees so be it. I will ask you this, As Lyon had 40mil in the bank, and their first team midfield are in their 30s, what does he gain from this deal? In my experienced view - Ultimately nothing in the long term. Keep flagging mate, it keeps all on their toes, as for Delving, that's been done.
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Post by trulskaare on Feb 26, 2015 12:33:48 GMT
Definitely a great deal for Real.
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