peter
Youth Player
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Post by peter on Feb 28, 2013 14:39:06 GMT
Wouldn't it be simpler and better to just give all players from 13-21 EOS bonuses, but keep the age+3 cap and ban on donations until 18 in place?
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Post by winzor @ Porto on Feb 28, 2013 20:02:11 GMT
Wouldn't it be simpler and better to just give all players from 13-21 EOS bonuses, but keep the age+3 cap and ban on donations until 18 in place? i agree with having the EOS bonuses on all under 22yr olds as we have the +3 over age rule. not sure we would need to up the age of donation though, as 16+ or any age is fine. still have the +3 rule so can not abuse the system anyway but i supose under 16 donations could mean managers could get good players on the cheap with youngsters and donating on them . but then would only be 2-3 players with the limits in place if they did. so maybe an age cap for donations could be best.
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Post by trulskaare on Mar 9, 2013 21:04:33 GMT
Wouldn't it be simpler and better to just give all players from 13-21 EOS bonuses, but keep the age+3 cap and ban on donations until 18 in place? I agree with that. At the moment it's pointless to scout the youngest age group.
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Post by gazza on Aug 13, 2013 16:19:27 GMT
Malky does a player who has his skill frozen due to the skill +3 cap thing get all his bonus abs end of season when turning 18 for the next season ?
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Post by Stu on Aug 13, 2013 16:22:23 GMT
Yeah I think so as pezza (was 17rtd and 20.999 all season) did Pezza 18 bra 1 7 10 22 32 300 796 990 19
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Post by scott777 on Jun 28, 2014 11:12:11 GMT
Sorry to revive an old thread, been reading through RE scouts and also wealth.
Would it be an idea to adjust scout prices per division, to reflect real life a touch, but also effect finances.
Say for instance, an elite team and bottom division team scout a similar player, say;
A_Player 17 nor 2 6 18 14 28 600 600 600 600
Would it be an idea to adjust the cost price, relevant to the league the team is in?
If we are to imagine the game runs similar to real life, then the idea would be that we as teams scout the players from other teams. Therefor, the top teams with far more financial clout would be scouting worldwide and at a far broader range of clubs than say a bottom team with little money.
So it could end up something like;
Sao Paulo scout A_Player 17 nor 2 6 18 14 28 600 600 600 600 COST - £6,800,000
Lyon scout A_Player 17 nor 2 6 18 14 28 600 600 600 600 COST - 13,6000
Bayern Munich scout A_Player 17 nor 2 6 18 14 28 600 600 600 600 COST - 20,400,000
So a team in the bottom div would pay the basic scout price, the next division up would pay it x2, the elite x3.
This also balances wealth accordingly throughout each division and gives the lower teams a chance at either getting a decent player, or selling for better profit.
Hope that makes sense.
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Post by andieglen on Jun 28, 2014 19:33:27 GMT
always thought Elite should pay 100% div 1 75% etc etc unwanted scouts go at 100% also! makes more sense to me? thought the lower division should hold all the cards, as far as scouts and loans to generated extra funds.
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Post by trulskaare on Jul 5, 2014 12:27:01 GMT
Not sure about that, Andie. A bit like saying the Elite should scout all the best players and the others get the rest.
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Post by trulskaare on Jul 5, 2014 12:27:21 GMT
Wouldn't it be simpler and better to just give all players from 13-21 EOS bonuses, but keep the age+3 cap and ban on donations until 18 in place? No feedback on this? I presume it's the same as it was, rendering under 17s worthless?
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Post by gazza on Jul 7, 2014 11:39:51 GMT
I think all players should get eos bonuses, as they cant be 3 skill levels above their age 17 and under, if you are brave enough to play a lowly rated teenager, then you should be rewarded for it, makes youth development even more of a challenge and adds that bit more to the game, 3 cap is in place to stop players over developing.
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Post by trulskaare on Jul 7, 2014 16:44:21 GMT
I believe that was the general consensus at the time, Gazza, but it wasn't taken any further.
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Post by gazza on Mar 26, 2015 19:44:35 GMT
I believe that was the general consensus at the time, Gazza, but it wasn't taken any further. There is nothing in the rules regards the youth development and restrictions, so do all players aged under 17 gain end of season bonus abs as suggested, but still capped at no more than 3 skill levels up until they reach 18yrs. I think as previously suggested that this should cause no harm and will encourage playing younger less skilled players. Apologies if this is the case and I am having another senile moment, but I was trawling through some old posts and doing a bit of homework on young players and how they are developing.
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Post by trulskaare on Mar 26, 2015 20:13:45 GMT
It's under the scouting section: Due to the changes in the scouting system for season 9 it is now nessasary to put rules/caps/guidelines into place regarding aged 17 and under 17 players scouted This is to stop 'super youths' being produced and wasting the game seasons down the line The Changes are as follows. 1. Youth players aged 13,14 & 15 can't be donated on. 2. Youth players aged 13,14 & 15 will not receive EOS bonuses 3. Youth players aged 17 and under can't have there main skill any more than three higher than there age, if a youth player progress too fast there skill will be frozen until they reach aged 18 Read more: malkymckay.proboards.com/thread/152/scouting-help#ixzz3VWaajXDA
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Post by trulskaare on Mar 26, 2015 20:15:46 GMT
13-15 year olds will not receive end of season bonus. 16-17 will receive end of season bonus, but can't have their skill level more than three above their age.
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Post by gazza on Mar 26, 2015 20:27:34 GMT
Wouldn't it be simpler and better to just give all players from 13-21 EOS bonuses, but keep the age+3 cap and ban on donations until 18 in place? This is what should be in place, thanks for that link Bryn, but it should be added to the rules on the main game page. There has to be more encouragement to bring in young players aged 13+ , keep the cap and limit donating on them, but maybe double abs eos is an idea, was looking at Spurs 13 year old Muresanu and he plays all the time, but basically is gaining no abs let alone end of season bonus abs. I know the rules are there to stop super youngsters coming through, but the facts are this aint happening, therefore lets open the game up a wee bit and encourage us playing really young reserve teams and bringing through proper youths.
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