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Post by Lee (Marseille) on Aug 13, 2017 8:16:22 GMT
Don't agree with Dillon's post, why should you be able to compete if your not set up properly as a club
Bigger teams should be going further there the one who have invested mor to there club
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Post by kaiserbilge on Aug 13, 2017 13:10:14 GMT
Osasuna are fine. With L.Shaw clearly worth 120-170M, that's a stadium upgrade to Elite standard, whenever they want. And with De Bruyne and Lombardo, the super youth production line rolls on. They could do it this season - bet Real Madrid are itching to do a deal?
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Post by Dillon (OSA) on Aug 13, 2017 18:28:47 GMT
Osasuna are fine. With L.Shaw clearly worth 120-170M, that's a stadium upgrade to Elite standard, whenever they want. And with De Bruyne and Lombardo, the super youth production line rolls on. They could do it this season - bet Real Madrid are itching to do a deal? Been offered more than that for Shaw, worth easily a lot more if Xhaka is as much as he was
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Post by Lee (Marseille) on Aug 13, 2017 19:42:45 GMT
Post not about L Shaw
Can we return to topic, come on mods keep up
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Post by loba on Aug 14, 2017 9:56:30 GMT
How about U23 rated cup? Play same as 1st team cup games. Of course money prize is awarded. This will keep teams occupied and a bit harder to manage both teams which would be more realistic. Challenge, bigger reserve squads would be needed which would make 23 rated and under players wanted again?
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Post by garfy on Aug 15, 2017 7:22:06 GMT
Gentleman
We need stability in our clubs. Right now they are falling apart - has anyone actually taken a long look out there?
With the wasting of 23s clubs are retiring players quicker than ever.
30 rated players will be the average in elite. Youth teams shrinking and only the "best scouts" kept.
This is a time to push forward infrastructure not one player clubs. If we don't all invest in the middle ground the top level will come crashing down
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Post by Adrian (Arsenal) on Aug 15, 2017 8:33:45 GMT
Gentleman We need stability in our clubs. Right now they are falling apart - has anyone actually taken a long look out there? With the wasting of 23s clubs are retiring players quicker than ever. 30 rated players will be the average in elite. Youth teams shrinking and only the "best scouts" kept. This is a time to push forward infrastructure not one player clubs. If we don't all invest in the middle ground the top level will come crashing down Good point. I think the only teams that can survive are those that have enough money to sign at least 2 scouts a season, perhaps even three
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Post by tone on Aug 15, 2017 13:33:08 GMT
Is this what ive been saying for 2/3seasons
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Post by Dillon (OSA) on Aug 17, 2017 22:14:59 GMT
Think we may need to look at upping the rate of abs for FWDs, seem to be progressing very slow compared to defenders. MFs seem to be gaining very little as well.
Would overall like to see a bit of restructuring on the leagues possibly going back to the extra league in a smaller format, maybe including a top/bottom 5 split like Scottish Premiership.
Possible ideas to get clubs out a rut too is to have them 'relegated' from the Elite Leagues to be replaced by a new club in a fresh start. Bottom 2 in Div2 get replaced (same manager)? Gives an incentive for people not to slip that low. I.e. Manchester Utd + Lyon at the moment could be replaced by Monaco and Villareal?
Would like to maybe see the introduction of a Lower Leagues Challenge Cup as well, one for Division 1 and 2 giving one of the smaller teams a run at something - winner could face off against winners of Div1 for another kind of start of season Challenge Cup in the way we do it now.
Could always include an extra scout for winning a cup/league to give people incentive to go for glory too
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Post by ciccoman on Aug 28, 2017 10:50:25 GMT
Think we may need to look at upping the rate of abs for FWDs, seem to be progressing very slow compared to defenders. MFs seem to be gaining very little as well. Would overall like to see a bit of restructuring on the leagues possibly going back to the extra league in a smaller format, maybe including a top/bottom 5 split like Scottish Premiership. Possible ideas to get clubs out a rut too is to have them 'relegated' from the Elite Leagues to be replaced by a new club in a fresh start. Bottom 2 in Div2 get replaced (same manager)? Gives an incentive for people not to slip that low. I.e. Manchester Utd + Lyon at the moment could be replaced by Monaco and Villareal? Would like to maybe see the introduction of a Lower Leagues Challenge Cup as well, one for Division 1 and 2 giving one of the smaller teams a run at something - winner could face off against winners of Div1 for another kind of start of season Challenge Cup in the way we do it now. Could always include an extra scout for winning a cup/league to give people incentive to go for glory too Hey hey don't touch my team
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Post by garfy on Aug 29, 2017 9:29:18 GMT
How about we introduced club management rather than picking a first team and waiting for scouts?
Firstly I would like to see youths re-kindled
Double the abs gained from standard 6 to 12 that would get the value back into developing players?
A cap on skill level loaned to each division say the highest skill for each position at season turn over should be the maximum loaned in for that division? Best DF is skill 26 so no 27 rated DF can be loaned in.
Penalties for not having enough players or going into debt should be reviewed and discussed. First offence in a season is 1 point deduction from main team. Second week is 2 points and so on.
Clubs should be able to complete emergency loans at any point of the season for a preset number of games but any fee paid to the parent club is matched and paid to EFL Say I lose my FWs and loan one in and pay a club 1m for 3 matches then it costs me 2m with the extra going back to the EFL coffers.
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Post by scottx3rd on Sept 12, 2017 15:14:43 GMT
Is this what ive been saying for 2/3seasons You've been saying secondaries will win you the elite for 20...
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Post by Stu on Sept 12, 2017 16:02:57 GMT
How about removing the reserve cap for youth players?
As long as a player is under 22 they can play in the reserves no matter what rating they are, it would re-ignite youth building and stop so many players stagnating once they reach 23 rated. Would also make Youth Academies worth the cost again.
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Post by andieglen on Sept 12, 2017 18:49:55 GMT
How about removing the reserve cap for youth players? As long as a player is under 22 they can play in the reserves no matter what rating they are, it would re-ignite youth building and stop so many players stagnating once they reach 23 rated. Would also make Youth Academies worth the cost again. I like this idea however we did try this and ended up with malky filling up the reserves with youth players rated 13 to bulk out squads, some of those ended up top players with a bit of exploitation?? However this day and age maybe it might work or could be phased in over time?
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Post by scottx3rd on Sept 18, 2017 12:37:37 GMT
Same old arguments.
The top clubs don't want things changed. The small minded clubs do.
Nothing needs changing. At all. It's entirely possible for a small club to get to the elite league and stay there.
The problem is people don't want to do what it takes to get there. They want to use their methods and gain success.
Pezza with youth Tone with secondaries Etc etc
So because people can't get success using the methods they want to, they ask for change.
If you want to win, do what it takes.
Steven arscott knew this. Rags knows this. I did it.
Stop complaining about wanting the reserves to be improved and try and win something!
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