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Post by bigdan on May 3, 2011 12:12:45 GMT
Can anyone please confirm whether the reserve squads are updated (for injury and fitness) during cup weeks, when the reserves don't play?
Reason for asking is that I have a reserve (actually a first team player normally) who was injured for 1 week in week 4 of the league. In theory he should therefore have recovered from his injury during the league cup week and now be ready for selection again. But if Malky doesn't touch the reserve squads during cup weeks then he will still be listed as injured.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 12:31:10 GMT
He doesn't touch them! TIP: always promote injured players and suspended players to the first team for cup matches as they will be available for there next reserve match
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Post by bigdan on May 3, 2011 14:01:06 GMT
Ah OK, I'll know next time! In fact it's worse still because he's a 1st team player and I moved him DOWN to the reserves!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 14:11:23 GMT
lol
The reason they don't get touched, is because cup games where always midweek games.
They still are for later stages though.
So just class cup games as midweek games and one league game to the next as weekly!
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Post by johnraggett on May 3, 2011 15:23:59 GMT
He doesn't touch them! TIP: always promote injured players and suspended players to the first team for cup matches as they will be available for there next reserve match Not sure that should be promoted on the forum board Andie!! In fact I think there should be a rule against promoting an injured/suspended player!! Logistic nightmare for Malky, but I'm sure if a rule was in place, one of the eagled frequent user could spot a cheat and they could get suitabilty punished.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 15:38:22 GMT
Well realistically, if you play 1 game per week then that should be 1 week in EFL terms and reserves should be updated every single week weather they play or not.
I don't think Malky minds us sorting out our own fitness, injuries and suspensions for the reserves as it saves him updating a shed load of reserve teams every single update.
But don't disagree with you as far as a rule is concerned but then again managers will be screaming out for malky to update reserves after weekly cup matches?
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Post by Stu on May 3, 2011 15:48:31 GMT
I think reserves should be updated the weeks cup games are played but can understand the current system as it's all extra work for Malky.
Maybe just update fitness but not suspensions which is the most realistic way.
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Post by trulskaare on May 3, 2011 17:31:11 GMT
I think reserves should be updated the weeks cup games are played but can understand the current system as it's all extra work for Malky. Maybe just update fitness but not suspensions which is the most realistic way. It's not fair if players in the reserves (who could be regulars in the first team) are not updated for suspension. They might have been moved there as it's not worth paying their wages. As we're free to move players as and when needed we can't make exceptions. I think either leave it as it is, or update the reserves along with the main roster for cup games.
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Post by trulskaare on May 3, 2011 17:36:42 GMT
Well realistically, if you play 1 game per week then that should be 1 week in EFL terms and reserves should be updated every single week weather they play or not. I don't think Malky minds us sorting out our own fitness, injuries and suspensions for the reserves as it saves him updating a shed load of reserve teams every single update. But don't disagree with you as far as a rule is concerned but then again managers will be screaming out for malky to update reserves after weekly cup matches? Not bad, thanks. The WEATHER is lovely and sunny at the moment
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Post by Stu on May 3, 2011 18:04:52 GMT
It's not fair if players in the reserves (who could be regulars in the first team) are not updated for suspension. They might have been moved there as it's not worth paying their wages. As we're free to move players as and when needed we can't make exceptions. I think either leave it as it is, or update the reserves along with the main roster for cup games. How isn't it fair, as in real life fitness is regained over time and suspensions are per game? The current system is a bit of a loop hole and the players you mention wouldn't have been updated anyway, so the suspension would still take the same length of time and your still not paying the wages?
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Post by johnraggett on May 3, 2011 18:36:29 GMT
Seems to gone off topic to what I was talking about.
I think it should stay as it is, with the exception that managers can't cheat by promoting unavailable players.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 18:51:25 GMT
Well realistically, if you play 1 game per week then that should be 1 week in EFL terms and reserves should be updated every single week weather they play or not. I don't think Malky minds us sorting out our own fitness, injuries and suspensions for the reserves as it saves him updating a shed load of reserve teams every single update. But don't disagree with you as far as a rule is concerned but then again managers will be screaming out for malky to update reserves after weekly cup matches? Not bad, thanks. The WEATHER is lovely and sunny at the moment lol nice to hear though
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Post by trulskaare on May 3, 2011 19:30:26 GMT
It's not fair if players in the reserves (who could be regulars in the first team) are not updated for suspension. They might have been moved there as it's not worth paying their wages. As we're free to move players as and when needed we can't make exceptions. I think either leave it as it is, or update the reserves along with the main roster for cup games. How isn't it fair, as in real life fitness is regained over time and suspensions are per game? The current system is a bit of a loop hole and the players you mention wouldn't have been updated anyway, so the suspension would still take the same length of time and your still not paying the wages? The system is not based on time, but games, so a player in the first team has a longer season and quicker recovery from injury than those in the reserves. If it was time based, surely those should recover at the same rate.
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Post by bigdan on May 3, 2011 21:45:22 GMT
Well the situation here is that I was playing the system anyway, by moving my injured player down to the reserves so I wouldn't have to pay his wages (perfectly legal I believe). So I've saved myself a few K but have lost a 1st team player for an extra week. I have no problem with that; I just need to be more careful in future.
I think the point of promoting an injured / suspended reserve to the 1st team is such a minor issue that it's not worth worrying about. How many managers are really bothered about losing a reserve for one extra game - AND this only applies in the weeks when there's a weekend cup game on (about one in three over the course of the season?) I don't think anyone is going to gain much advantage from that little bit of playing the system.
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