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Post by andieglen on Apr 6, 2021 21:15:48 GMT
With the new scout system in place (1season old) we've seen unwanted scout missions in the region of 50+mil being revalued at a % of the cost to be auctioned and unsold?
We have seen teams blow their balance on 1 player this season?
We have also seen teams develope super youths via donations?
So is the route elitefootballleague is taking?
Either pay to improve or use limited resources to pave the cracks.
Inevitably those with cash will succeed, resources and glory will progress, What about the rest??
If you have an aging team with limited success and no or little income, your screwed, we will all be playing 25 raters in division 2 with no way out! While the rich get richer??
As in real life any team should be able to develope a star and in return could generate funds to be better on and off the pitch. My opinion ! Just not sure how anyone joining the game can rejuvenate a club too success without paying for it and bending the rules with cash.
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 7, 2021 7:31:25 GMT
I have to agree regarding the scouts. It's very difficult to build from the bottom when scouts are very expensive and not as good as they used to be. I guess in the long run it'll even out again, but it will take many seasons. Perhaps a system where the old scouts returned and then a discount moving down the divisions. 10% off for Div1 and 20% off for Div2, for example?
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Apr 7, 2021 12:44:50 GMT
Andie
The big clubs didn't get big overnight, almost every squad is 31 seasons in the making, some clubs have been neglected by having no manager for a period of seasons, others have sold all their youth and bought a squad of high skilled aging players then failed, some have tried to rebuild and failed, some use donations every season while others still improve and compete almost every season and don't donate
Benfica have won nothing since season 22 yet have 123,000,000 million available this pre-season, Arsenal are in Division Two yet have won the JRMC the last two seasons, and still managed to produce players like Anelka
Aston Villa have won both Division Two and Division One in the last two seasons, Ajax to name one had to establish themselves as an Elite club for a good few seasons before becoming what we see as an Elite League club
There are so many options available to clubs and what route they take, Elite success will never happen overnight, we can't just hand success to every manager
in 31 seasons I'd say a lot of clubs would have generated over 500 million, some have built stadiums, some youth academies, some just spend on players
some lower division clubs have been loaning in Elite players for seasons without asking for a penny?? three players could generate you up to 30 million extra a season
we can't suddenly see super youths coming through and say its not fair, we have all had the chance to do the same, as always I'm open to discussion
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Post by Adrian (Arsenal) on Apr 7, 2021 18:07:51 GMT
Not just being selfish given my current division but a discount for teams in the lower league might have some legs on the scouts
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Post by andieglen on Apr 7, 2021 18:11:55 GMT
Bryn kind of got what I was on about! Malky has went the other way lmao.
Any suggestion over the seasons I have made has been purely for the games benefit and not my own.
I don't look at the rule changes/improvements and think how will this effect me or how can I use it for my benefits.
I look at them and work out in a few seasons how this may effect the game going forward!
The two key rule changes are:
1. Donations on players 21 and under. Allowing a player to gain 12 skill points in 3 season??
NOTE: some players skills become so high too fast, we may have a game where teams cant score goals due to keepers being too high skilled, and then may have to go down the road some other games have had to go..
Now we are seeing this again?
2. New scouting system. In 3 seasons we will see over 360+ players retire from the game with 36 teams that's an average of 10 per team?
With current scouts spitting out first team players @ average £50 mil we would need 500mil each to replace them in 3 seasons not 31 seasons. Alternatively you could scout youth and get 1 player as above (re-donations) or try and bring in younger players but will be @ around 25 skill when promoted.
So like I said you will be sitting in division 2 with a team full of 25 raters with poor stadiums, low youth academy and limited opportunities training up Elite youths for scraps which they will happily let you because when the game started and cash was free flowing they built up those stadiums and academies as there wasn't much else to spend it on.
Simple math.
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Post by kaiserbilge on Apr 7, 2021 18:46:27 GMT
Agree with Andie.
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Post by Dillon (OSA) on Apr 7, 2021 19:25:28 GMT
Just want to check what the rules are on donating on youths. Is the cap still 2000abs maximum?
So I can donate on:
M_Rose 21 eng 1 29 8 8 31 500 885 907 596 & A_Anderson 19 can 3 6 10 28 22 400 738 158 785
but not a 3rd donation on:
F_Baresi 20 ita 3 25 8 7 30 400 108 666 942
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Post by tone on Apr 7, 2021 21:48:32 GMT
Scouts are far to expencive. Priced out of the market having to sell best part of team to get the scouts you want
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 8, 2021 10:38:14 GMT
Just want to check what the rules are on donating on youths. Is the cap still 2000abs maximum? So I can donate on: M_Rose 21 eng 1 29 8 8 31 500 885 907 596 & A_Anderson 19 can 3 6 10 28 22 400 738 158 785 but not a 3rd donation on: F_Baresi 20 ita 3 25 8 7 30 400 108 666 942 Yes, that's correct. You can donate max £20 for 2000 abs. One player can have max 1000 abs added to them each.
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Post by andieglen on Apr 8, 2021 13:35:06 GMT
just as a suggestion how about a retirement draw EOS?
All retiring players get thrown into a draw and 12 random players are picked to play on for 1 more season.
Might lessen the impact a bit??
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Post by Dillon (OSA) on Apr 9, 2021 19:46:07 GMT
Just want to check what the rules are on donating on youths. Is the cap still 2000abs maximum? So I can donate on: M_Rose 21 eng 1 29 8 8 31 500 885 907 596 & A_Anderson 19 can 3 6 10 28 22 400 738 158 785 but not a 3rd donation on: F_Baresi 20 ita 3 25 8 7 30 400 108 666 942 Yes, that's correct. You can donate max £20 for 2000 abs. One player can have max 1000 abs added to them each. Marseille have donated 5 x1000 abs on their players this season (Bovan, Bergwijn, Oko Flex, Robinson, Upamecano) Few others said they've been doing more than 2 for a few seasons as well. I'd always assumed it was £20 max but wanted to check on here
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Post by garfy on Apr 10, 2021 6:19:54 GMT
Yes, that's correct. You can donate max £20 for 2000 abs. One player can have max 1000 abs added to them each. Marseille have donated 5 x1000 abs on their players this season (Bovan, Bergwijn, Oko Flex, Robinson, Upamecano) Few others said they've been doing more than 2 for a few seasons as well. I'd always assumed it was £20 max but wanted to check on here It’s always been a max of £20,else I’d have done loads more over the years. Guess if some have been doing more explains the super youth theory. Oh well
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Post by pom on Apr 10, 2021 8:02:05 GMT
Marseille have donated 5 x1000 abs on their players this season (Bovan, Bergwijn, Oko Flex, Robinson, Upamecano) Few others said they've been doing more than 2 for a few seasons as well. I'd always assumed it was £20 max but wanted to check on here It’s always been a max of £20,else I’d have done loads more over the years. Guess if some have been doing more explains the super youth theory. Oh well YEAH FFS - Wondered how some squads F U C KI NG Gained quicklyDidn't know Elite was a free for all payment game (where only a few) must of known a slight rule change - ffs if DILLON did'nt know about it it must of been a slight change Very DisappointedI Thought finally we had a game to be proud of obviously not - cuz there was a definite rule of 2000abs per season max in the past - why else are so many old school managers quoting this !!!!
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 10, 2021 12:29:55 GMT
That's ridiculous. You can just buy a team then. I never heard it changing from max £20. I would have done a few extra players over the seasons had I known that was possible.
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Post by pom on Apr 10, 2021 15:51:21 GMT
That's ridiculous. You can just buy a team then. I never heard it changing from max £20. I would have done a few extra players over the seasons had I known that was possible. YEP apparently Bryn we should of asked for this rule breakerTried my best on whatsapp but pezza & bruffio love the rule we didnt know about
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