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Post by johnraggett on Sept 14, 2010 16:30:20 GMT
Hence why I started a thread on it, seemed like a greyish area to me, and I'm not one to abuse the game. A season long loan would not benifit the selling team, where as a short term buy would in more ways than one. Bryn how much for yours? ;D You can have him on loan if you give me your back up keeper and defender on loan in return. Interesting might have to talk a bit more on this. |
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Post by johnraggett on Sept 14, 2010 16:31:32 GMT
Each transfer has to be taken on a one deal basis, so if a gk of a high rating was sold for a silly amount, I for one would kick off and object. But it doesn't really matter does it. For example I can say I'll give you 15.5Mil then you buy him back for 15Mil |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 12:49:30 GMT
I agree with Scott if you buy a keeper wether the aim is short term or not and you dont pay the going rate then someone will flag it as a dodgy transfer?
However since you have already brought it up about buying one and selling one back in a few weeks, i think a fair few managers will flag that deal more so, especially those managers in Elite and the ones your playing against?
But again there's nothing in the rules about not doing it? and as a manager has already said is it in the spirit of the game?
season long loans are there to prevent teams who havent got a great deal to play for loaning out top players and teams who have bringing in top players short term to the win stuff.
you still have time to make some sort of loan deal or to buy in a better quality back up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 13:56:32 GMT
I've had a think about this properly now and was trying to think of a positive way of doing things?
Malky has said he wants to work on rules etc this season, so we have them set in stone for the launch of the new website!
Now i know there's nothing in the rules about buying a player then flogging him back, and i think they shouldn't be! Alot of managers buy players and then ship them out elsewhere? I'm the worlds worst for that!
So how about putting "disipline points" (DP's) on all transfered players??
Loans, scouts, transfers etc
That way players could be transfered between clubs but with DP's added each time a player moves in that season, could see him suspended for a game or so??
So John still could (if wanted) buy a player then sell him back (transfer value) but if you think about it there would be an added cost!
Ie rangers buys keeper pre-season +5DP's sells to John +10 DP's
then sells him back (another 10DP's) at some point the guy will be suspended for atleast a game or 3 lol
not sure what suspensions are set at- think it's 10??
If this makes sense?
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Post by trulskaare on Sept 15, 2010 14:30:30 GMT
I don't think that's a very good idea Andie. His DP shouldn't have anything to do with transfers. Why should a player be suspended after just a yellow card because he's changed club twice?
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Sept 15, 2010 14:45:45 GMT
I think is john fault, why we make it very complicated Andie ( maybe just make a dodgy deal more easy) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 14:56:52 GMT
It's an idea used in a few other games to prevent multi transfers of a single player and to prevent (to a degree) players being passed between 2 clubs more than once? (which doesn't happen)
might be unrealistic than real life transfers are concerned, but if you look at it along the lines as players being cup tied, subject to medicals/work permits etc it's within reality?
Plenty of players are bought by clubs and miss the odd game due to some of those related issue! As this is a game, putting a rule in place to stop this would take constant monitoring, where as the DP's would take care of it naturally and still allow transfers to go ahead!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 14:58:32 GMT
I've seen it in other games and it works!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 15:02:55 GMT
I don't think that's a very good idea Andie. His DP shouldn't have anything to do with transfers. Why should a player be suspended after just a yellow card because he's changed club twice? thats a worse case senario? |
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Post by johnraggett on Sept 15, 2010 16:25:05 GMT
I've had a think about this properly now and was trying to think of a positive way of doing things? Malky has said he wants to work on rules etc this season, so we have them set in stone for the launch of the new website! Now i know there's nothing in the rules about buying a player then flogging him back, and i think they shouldn't be! Alot of managers buy players and then ship them out elsewhere? I'm the worlds worst for that! So how about putting "disipline points" (DP's) on all transfered players?? Loans, scouts, transfers etc That way players could be transfered between clubs but with DP's added each time a player moves in that season, could see him suspended for a game or so?? So John still could (if wanted) buy a player then sell him back (transfer value) but if you think about it there would be an added cost! Ie rangers buys keeper pre-season +5DP's sells to John +10 DP's then sells him back (another 10DP's) at some point the guy will be suspended for atleast a game or 3 lol not sure what suspensions are set at- think it's 10?? If this makes sense? Worst idea I've heard since Aide Boothroyd got the City job!! I don't think it should be allowed if I'm honest hence starting the thread rather than do a sneaky deal. The rule should be you can't sell the same player directly back to the same club in the same season, end of story. Fookin DP points  |
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Post by johnraggett on Sept 15, 2010 16:27:17 GMT
Hence why I started a thread on it, seemed like a greyish area to me, and I'm not one to abuse the game. A season long loan would not benifit the selling team, where as a short term buy would in more ways than one. Bryn how much for yours? ;D You can have him on loan if you give me your back up keeper and defender on loan in return. If your talking Westwood send it through and I'll confirm. |
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Post by scott on Sept 15, 2010 17:48:59 GMT
Malky put that new clause in the games rules for anything fishy like this.
Lets get serious, there are 1000s of ways of manipulating things. I run events and if I had to list rules for every eventuality I wouldnt bother as it would take forever. Common sense needs to be the winner
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Post by johnraggett on Sept 17, 2010 15:53:32 GMT
Malky put that new clause in the games rules for anything fishy like this. Lets get serious, there are 1000s of ways of manipulating things. I run events and if I had to list rules for every eventuality I wouldnt bother as it would take forever. Common sense needs to be the winner You mean like lloris and how some other keepers are developed? |
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Post by scott on Sept 17, 2010 15:55:39 GMT
If you class using your youth team as a means of producing as good a player as possible as manipulating the rules then I guess so yes.
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Post by garfy on Sept 17, 2010 21:14:13 GMT
I don't see the problem. Robbie Keane to Liverpool then back to spurs in 6 months and Spurs made 7m on the deal. So it does happen in real life.
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