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Post by trulskaare on Apr 10, 2021 18:36:12 GMT
I notice that Juve have loaned a 30 rated keeper to AC Milan, who have a 31 rated keeper available to them. I thought this was not allowed? Many seasons ago, Barcelona tried to loan Lloris to Newcastle offering cash and a player as part of the deal. This deal was rejected at the time. Was it one rule for one team and a different rule for other teams? This season I loaned out my keeper, but made sure it was to a team where I wouldn't weaken their keeper abs. Do we just make rules temporarily if we have an agenda and forget about it for future seasons? I don't think it's an issue doing a deal like this as there is an incentive for both clubs and I don't mean to have a dig at Juve or AC. Just seeking clarification.
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Post by bigdan on Apr 10, 2021 20:31:59 GMT
One thing to add to the mix is that now it is normal practice for the loaning in team to get a fee. So Milan trade off a weaker keeper vs getting some cash. In the old days there would be no benefit to Milan and so it would look like something dodgy was going on. Agree though, it should be clarified.
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Post by garfy on Apr 11, 2021 6:03:47 GMT
If we go on the Barca Newcastle deal then Milan need to move on their keeper if they want to play Juve one.
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 11, 2021 7:07:53 GMT
If we go on the Barca Newcastle deal then Milan need to move on their keeper if they want to play Juve one. For the Newcastle deal, we offered to buy their keeper too, but it was rejected.
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 11, 2021 7:08:48 GMT
One thing to add to the mix is that now it is normal practice for the loaning in team to get a fee. So Milan trade off a weaker keeper vs getting some cash. In the old days there would be no benefit to Milan and so it would look like something dodgy was going on. Agree though, it should be clarified. They were offered cash and H Kane at the time, a promising young striker.
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Apr 11, 2021 7:34:27 GMT
Can you include the skills of the players in the deal at that time please
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Post by pom on Apr 11, 2021 8:56:28 GMT
Is this just a Kaiser / Juve thing - cuz last season - Santos loaned Lev_Yashin to AC Milan who was also 31 rated (and AC Milan had the same 32 Rated GK)
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Post by pom on Apr 11, 2021 8:58:50 GMT
Bryn apparently rules change - if i'd know i could pay to donate Lev_Yashin would be 36 Rated by now - so perhaps rules change / interpreted differently nowadays !!!
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Post by pom on Apr 11, 2021 9:00:27 GMT
The deal of gaining 10m in cash - is worth more to AC MILAN than playing a GK with +1 skill
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Post by garfy on Apr 11, 2021 9:03:14 GMT
The full deal is:
Loan to Newcastle: Hugo_Lloris 21 fra 28 3 2 3 13 500 400 400 400 D_Rose 20 eng 1 23 10 7 22 800 333 116 200 H_Son 19 kor 2 8 9 24 20 500 590 904 803
Fee: H_Kane 25 eng 1 8 10 28 33 300 58 42 228 (after the season) E_Lamela 21 arg 1 8 23 9 32 700 87 537 820 (straight away) Three reserves on loan to benefit the bonus of a higher academy
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Post by garfy on Apr 11, 2021 9:04:22 GMT
Bryn apparently rules change - if i'd know i could pay to donate Lev_Yashin would be 36 Rated by now - so perhaps rules change / interpreted differently nowadays !!! Pom I’d never of had to release any youth - all those 24 age 24 rated I’ve got would be superstars by now 😂😂
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Post by kaiserbilge on Apr 11, 2021 9:40:28 GMT
Logged in last night to comment on other thread, then got into the Alien film and watched that.........forgot I was logged in. This thread a bit poinntless in the scale of things isn't it?
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Post by trulskaare on Apr 11, 2021 9:56:37 GMT
I don't have any issues with this deal. I just find it a bit annoying that we make certain rules when we want and ignore them for other situations.
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Post by garfy on Apr 11, 2021 10:35:08 GMT
Yeah the point is we need consistency or clear rules on what is allowed and what is maybe grey?
Or we simply don’t limit who plays in the first team and let managers manage in their own way?
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Apr 11, 2021 10:51:19 GMT
But when Elite clubs start playing 30+ aged players skill 25 surely someone has to step in and question why? Or is that OK and just let managers run their clubs any way
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