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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 17, 2014 23:13:21 GMT
Celtic FC 4 - 2 Schalke 04 Aston Villa 1 - 1 Lyon Real Madrid 0 - 0 Newcastle FC Porto 2 - 3 Barcelona Everton 1 - 2 AC Milan Bayern Munich 4 - 0 Osasuna Rangers FC 0 - 0 Marseille Valencia 0 - 0 Benfica
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Post by trulskaare on Sept 18, 2014 6:10:55 GMT
Disappointed that Winzor missed his conditions. We would have liked to have won fair and square. Great effort from Newcastle to hold Real away. Loads of joker points lost on that one.
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Post by gazza on Sept 18, 2014 7:16:55 GMT
Great performance this week against a very good Marseille team, both teams at full strength, but it was Rangers who dominated and pushed for the full 90 minutes, Rangers defence also holding firm in contrast to last weeks mauling.
Once again it was a tale of misfiring Gers who just cannot buy a goal these days, if we had a van nistelrooy, I reckon this game would have been in the bag.
The replay will be very tough and a big ask, but we will see !
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Sept 18, 2014 7:32:33 GMT
Not sure what is going on and what is right and wrong any more, but is the managers could use all these defender in different position, I think it not right and Tone should be punished for that because that is mean everybody could do it and I will do it as well if there is no action taken for this match
A_Marshall GK 36 4 6 5 11 A_Hinkel DF 1 22 10 10 44 S_Clark DF 1 21 10 9 32 G_Rodriguez DF 1 21 10 9 37 P_Alert DF 2 21 10 10 20 J_Gregory DF 2 20 12 11 32 D_F_Rodrigues DM 2 24 12 11 34 R_Giovinco DM 2 24 12 10 35
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Post by gazza on Sept 18, 2014 7:51:15 GMT
Not sure what is going on and what is right and wrong any more, but is the managers could use all these defender in different position, I think it not right and Tone should be punished for that because that is mean everybody could do it and I will do it as well if there is no action taken for this match A_Marshall GK 36 4 6 5 11 A_Hinkel DF 1 22 10 10 44 S_Clark DF 1 21 10 9 32 G_Rodriguez DF 1 21 10 9 37 P_Alert DF 2 21 10 10 20 J_Gregory DF 2 20 12 11 32 D_F_Rodrigues DM 2 24 12 11 34 R_Giovinco DM 2 24 12 10 35 7-2-1/7-0-3 disguised as 5-4-1 A bit naughty, amazed it worked !
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 18, 2014 8:01:43 GMT
Not sure what is going on and what is right and wrong any more, but is the managers could use all these defender in different position, I think it not right and Tone should be punished for that because that is mean everybody could do it and I will do it as well if there is no action taken for this match A_Marshall GK 36 4 6 5 11 A_Hinkel DF 1 22 10 10 44 S_Clark DF 1 21 10 9 32 G_Rodriguez DF 1 21 10 9 37 P_Alert DF 2 21 10 10 20 J_Gregory DF 2 20 12 11 32 D_F_Rodrigues DM 2 24 12 11 34 R_Giovinco DM 2 24 12 10 35 Ahmed im 100 percent behind you, this to me is just like playing 7 defenders! WHAT MORE CAN I DO?? other than ask managers to play the game fairly yet here we are again!!! You say we always put more rules in but what chance do i have when managers continue to do what they want? PLAY DF AS Defenders PLAY MF AS Midfielders, PLAY FW AS Forwards examples of DM AND AM PLAYERS B_Abdoulaye 24 por 2 14 26 7 39 300 696 475 813 - This Player Is A Midfielder, Can Be Used As A DM Where He Clearly Could Be Effective, Could Also Be Used As An AM With Less Effect! This Players Is Clearly NOT A Defender Or A Forward And SHOULDNT Be Played In Those Positions!!!! S_Perrotta 32 ita 2 8 23 17 27 303 374 396 688 - This Player Is A Midfielder, Can Be Used As A AM Where He Clearly Could Be Effective, Could Also Be Used As An DF With Less Effect! This Players Is Clearly NOT A Defender Or A Forward And SHOULDNT Be Played In Those Positions!!!! What Newcastle Have Done Here Is CLEARLY Ripping The 3$"$4 AGAIN!! When We Are All Trying To Stamp It Out!! But This Is Not Just Directed At Newcastle, I Am Still Seeing Managers Playing High Skilled Forwards As Attacking Midfielders?? From Now On I Have To Start Dishing Out Punishments Whether It Be Deduction Of Abs, Fines, Or Deducting Points! This Has To STOP!
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Post by scott777 on Sept 18, 2014 8:20:10 GMT
So newcastle play the best team in the game, far beyond them, manage to get a draw, and are now being crucified for it?
They should be congratulated for it in my opinion.
It isnt like 7 defenders as the tactics chart dictates what % of their skill they play at.
Imagine if Leyton Orient in real life played away to Chelsea and scraped a drae like this, their manager would be classed a genious.
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Post by trulskaare on Sept 18, 2014 8:20:38 GMT
Is it max 6 defenders?
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Sept 18, 2014 8:29:01 GMT
Yes we did talk about that many times and it is much cleared what you asked for, no need for rules, it is too easy the result should be change to 3-0 to Real, so nobody will use players out of the position
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 18, 2014 8:41:53 GMT
Min_DF = 3 Max_DF = 6 Max_DM = 3 Min_MF = 1 Max_MF = 6 Max_AM = 3 Min_FW = 1 Max_FW = 4
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 18, 2014 8:46:18 GMT
So newcastle play the best team in the game, far beyond them, manage to get a draw, and are now being crucified for it? They should be congratulated for it in my opinion. It isnt like 7 defenders as the tactics chart dictates what % of their skill they play at. Imagine if Leyton Orient in real life played away to Chelsea and scraped a drae like this, their manager would be classed a genious. But in real life Players havn't got skills in tackling or passing or shooting! they can play in whatever position there manager asks them too! but this is a computer generated system that determines results using numbers! so players have to play in the position allocated to them, for midfielders we are spoiled that we have the choice of DM or AM this can be removed from the game to just MF but its been added for realism! it cant be too much to ask for managers to use the six positions available to them?
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Post by harry@werderbremen on Sept 18, 2014 8:47:31 GMT
Tone has tried to fight a good game against a superior opponent. He has used the possibilities within the ESMS system and has done only one illegal thing, he didn't field 1 MF. I've read the rules in the Help section once again, and the reason why it is forbidden to play players out off position is to gain extreme amounts of abs. Tone hasn't done that. The reason he did this was to get a draw (or maybe a win ;-) against mighty Real. A creative way of using the ESMS possibilities. Luckily for Tone, it worked. But it also could have gone the other way, considering the tactics calculations of players playing out off position, like Scott says.
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Post by Ahmed@Real on Sept 18, 2014 8:48:34 GMT
The problem is not with the no of players, it is with using DF as a DM, so we could use 10 DF in this case
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 18, 2014 8:51:24 GMT
I don't see the problem. Tone has tried to fight a good game against a superior opponent. He has used the possibilities within the ESMS system and hasn't done any illegal. I've read the rules in the Help section once again, and the reason why it is forbidden to play players out off position is to gain extreme amounts of abs. Tone hasn't done that. The reason he did this was to get a draw (or maybe a win ;-) against mighty Real. A creative way of using the ESMS possibilities. Luckily for Tone, it worked. But it also could have gone the other way, considering the tactics calculations of players playing out off position, like Scott says. Mate this is why rules are continually altered as you have just mentioned you have read the rules and it only says about playing players out of position to gain extreme amounts of abs! so in other words people look at this and see where they can bend the rules cause the wording doesnt cover what they are going to do! so really what your saying is what Tottenham done a few weeks ago was ok? to loose 15-0 to Celtic FC by putting all there players into new positions, maybe he was just trying something new? where does it stop? what should the rules be? or should it just be a free for all and managers do what they want to get results or abs?
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Sept 18, 2014 8:54:21 GMT
The problem is not with the no of players, it is with using DF as a DM, so we could use 10 DF in this case but again Ahmed its really the same as managers using FW's as AM's and thats going on at the moment also, again this is not a Newcastle issue this is being done by a few! but there seems to be managers who think its acceptable and should be allowed to happen to try and get a result! so what is right and what is wrong??
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