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Post by winzor @ Porto on Jul 20, 2012 21:24:03 GMT
your one to talk anyway pal you wanted to loan all your best young players out to gain more abs in the lower leagues to get your own players better and how is that playing the game in good spirt? whats that got to do with anything metioned here ya nugget? lol
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Post by johnraggett on Jul 20, 2012 23:20:52 GMT
One thing that would help is reducing the age in which keepers retire, by 2/3 years. Also although keepers nearing retiring will be in their 40's strikers will be to won't they. I think only awarding keepers for clean sheets is the way forward.
Scores are realistic at the moment, and I wouldn't want to go back to the cricket scores we once had.
FA Cup - I'd prefer to see a random draw, but whatever the decision it's a very minor point.
Attendances - I wouldn't change to much but maybe have a maximum amount of fans a league can have, not drastic, but if Barcas went down to the bottom league it would be silly if they were still getting 150,000 regardless of results. Maybe Elite max, Div one 10,000 less and so on.
Loans - 3 in 3 out simple, maybe with one of the 3 being able to be made til say league game 7 (Emergency loan so to speak).
T Tactic - not much you can do about it, but kinda like the idea of playing N but the non sheeter gets no points regardless of the score, or do I!! (it's certainly an interesting idea).
Leagues - Need to stay the same size and get rid of the play off, I'm sure managers target these games for extra abs & why not!
Scouts - Player prices shouldn't be reduced, teams are still buying a lot of scouts so prices must be fair, older players should have a higher rating to make them more appealing. Also like the idea of a coupe of players being made available at transfer deadline in a closed auction bid, with a minimum bid, as per normal scouting. (Maybe league specific, i.e, Lyon are not exactly going to outbid Bayern, so 2/3 players a league, with a slight skill decrease going down the leagues).
Reserves - Would like to see the end to teams consistently getting high scores. So maybe if you concede say 5 goals every player gets minus 100abs (figures just picked out the air).
Don't think errors in team sheets will be an issue this year.
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Post by pom on Jul 21, 2012 6:21:31 GMT
Will post properly soon
Keepers - why don't we just set a skill cap of '40'
We have the very best keepers reaching or over that milestone now, but if a 'super keeper' gets to 40 skill and is only 29 years old then he stays a 40 skill for the rest of his career.
This still lets people 'build a keeper' but shouldn't let the goals dry up.
Then if this has an effect of 'super strikers' scoring too many in the future - (which i doubt) but this can be looked at if a problem is arising ....
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Post by johnraggett on Jul 21, 2012 7:54:57 GMT
Will post properly soon Keepers - why don't we just set a skill cap of '40' We have the very best keepers reaching or over that milestone now, but if a 'super keeper' gets to 40 skill and is only 29 years old then he stays a 40 skill for the rest of his career. This still lets people 'build a keeper' but shouldn't let the goals dry up. Then if this has an effect of 'super strikers' scoring too many in the future - (which i doubt) but this can be looked at if a problem is arising .... This idea makes sense to me
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Post by winzor @ Porto on Jul 21, 2012 8:41:13 GMT
One thing that would help is reducing the age in which keepers retire, by 2/3 years. Also although keepers nearing retiring will be in their 40's strikers will be to won't they. I think only awarding keepers for clean sheets is the way forward. Scores are realistic at the moment, and I wouldn't want to go back to the cricket scores we once had. FA Cup - I'd prefer to see a random draw, but whatever the decision it's a very minor point. [glow=red,2,300] Attendances - I wouldn't change to much but maybe have a maximum amount of fans a league can have, not drastic, but if Barcas went down to the bottom league it would be silly if they were still getting 150,000 regardless of results. Maybe Elite max, Div one 10,000 less and so on.[/glow] Loans - 3 in 3 out simple, maybe with one of the 3 being able to be made til say league game 7 (Emergency loan so to speak). T Tactic - not much you can do about it, but kinda like the idea of playing N but the non sheeter gets no points regardless of the score, or do I!! (it's certainly an interesting idea). Leagues - Need to stay the same size and get rid of the play off, I'm sure managers target these games for extra abs & why not! Scouts - Player prices shouldn't be reduced, teams are still buying a lot of scouts so prices must be fair, older players should have a higher rating to make them more appealing. Also like the idea of a coupe of players being made available at transfer deadline in a closed auction bid, with a minimum bid, as per normal scouting. (Maybe league specific, i.e, Lyon are not exactly going to outbid Bayern, so 2/3 players a league, with a slight skill decrease going down the leagues). Reserves - Would like to see the end to teams consistently getting high scores. So maybe if you concede say 5 goals every player gets minus 100abs (figures just picked out the air). Don't think errors in team sheets will be an issue this year. lets think outside the box. Hearts with a 35,000 stadium - division 3 would make them only get 5,000 of their fans come on!!!!!!!! the attendances is just an added thing to the team. the teams with big stadiums have obviously paid big to get them big in the long run, so why should it matter what league they are in? ticket prices are lower as you go down the leagues anyway. i am not sure why attendances has now become a problem to some
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Post by Stu on Jul 21, 2012 8:48:35 GMT
I think changing attendances is a really bad idea, your effectively handicapping lower league teams! If they've paid for an 80,000 seater stadium they shouldn't be then told sorry you can only have 50,000 fans each week, if they are doing well in their division they should be able to sell it out.
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Post by winzor @ Porto on Jul 21, 2012 8:52:48 GMT
as for keepers, a cap is good. but could also become a time when all keepers end up being at that cap (not sure how likely that is now though). so a good option imo. or we could have a system where the better the keeper the less they earn per save/clean sheet? pretty sure thats how it is done in PBEMFF (a game in its 23rd season and still going very strong) i.e set save ab - skill level = abs gained from save for keeper. this way the keepers will not stay stale at the cap level.
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Post by Malky(Admin) on Jul 21, 2012 10:37:00 GMT
PBEMFF has also had issues with keepers in the past and there was a big shake up! But I don't base EFL on any other game! As where miles better, and have better managers ;o)
All this has given me food for thought and will mull over things in the coming weeks
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Post by winzor @ Porto on Jul 21, 2012 13:33:24 GMT
PBEMFF has also had issues with keepers in the past and there was a big shake up! But I don't base EFL on any other game! As where miles better, and have better managers ;o) All this has given me food for thought and will mull over things in the coming weeks the problem came from people abusing the system in PBEMFF with youth keepers. the 1 thing you dont get in PBEMFF is the top keepers gaining way more than the other keepers........... which is why i mentioned it, as that is the issue here. as for us being better here and with better managers............... im staying on neutral ground as i enjoy playing both lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2012 14:09:49 GMT
People,
Personally I think all players should be capped at a max 40 RTD. Other games I have played this. I that all positions should be looked at and adjusted to real life situation, there are to many Wayne Rooneys if you understand my meaning. The older the players get ie 32-33 rerate down - if this already done forget it.
Tactic T - Is fair and agree to maybe bring in a financial penalty to. But only if a second consetutive sheet is missed etc... 100K for an error.
FA Cup - No seedings. Make it more interesting and could get a few shock results.
Attendances - I think need to be adjusted according to the Division and stature of the club and the opposition.
Playoffs - I agree to stop this 2 up 2 down.
Just to add an extra thing as we bringing things up. How about increasing the number of teams in each division to make two or three divisions.
I have another thought about rerating all players but I think that may upset to many people.
Feel free to criticise.
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Post by theo on Jul 21, 2012 16:19:37 GMT
People, Personally I think all players should be capped at a max 40 RTD. Other games I have played this. I that all positions should be looked at and adjusted to real life situation, there are to many Wayne Rooneys if you understand my meaning. The older the players get ie 32-33 rerate down - if this already done forget it. Tactic T - Is fair and agree to maybe bring in a financial penalty to. But only if a second consetutive sheet is missed etc... 100K for an error. FA Cup - No seedings. Make it more interesting and could get a few shock results. Attendances - I think need to be adjusted according to the Division and stature of the club and the opposition. Playoffs - I agree to stop this 2 up 2 down. Just to add an extra thing as we bringing things up. How about increasing the number of teams in each division to make two or three divisions. I have another thought about rerating all players but I think that may upset to many people. Feel free to criticise. Shock results like Marseille in the final? ; )
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Post by Lee (Marseille) on Jul 21, 2012 17:05:05 GMT
Cheers for the reminder buddy
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Post by johnraggett on Jul 21, 2012 21:57:54 GMT
One thing that would help is reducing the age in which keepers retire, by 2/3 years. Also although keepers nearing retiring will be in their 40's strikers will be to won't they. I think only awarding keepers for clean sheets is the way forward. Scores are realistic at the moment, and I wouldn't want to go back to the cricket scores we once had. FA Cup - I'd prefer to see a random draw, but whatever the decision it's a very minor point. [glow=red,2,300] Attendances - I wouldn't change to much but maybe have a maximum amount of fans a league can have, not drastic, but if Barcas went down to the bottom league it would be silly if they were still getting 150,000 regardless of results. Maybe Elite max, Div one 10,000 less and so on.[/glow] Loans - 3 in 3 out simple, maybe with one of the 3 being able to be made til say league game 7 (Emergency loan so to speak). T Tactic - not much you can do about it, but kinda like the idea of playing N but the non sheeter gets no points regardless of the score, or do I!! (it's certainly an interesting idea). Leagues - Need to stay the same size and get rid of the play off, I'm sure managers target these games for extra abs & why not! Scouts - Player prices shouldn't be reduced, teams are still buying a lot of scouts so prices must be fair, older players should have a higher rating to make them more appealing. Also like the idea of a coupe of players being made available at transfer deadline in a closed auction bid, with a minimum bid, as per normal scouting. (Maybe league specific, i.e, Lyon are not exactly going to outbid Bayern, so 2/3 players a league, with a slight skill decrease going down the leagues). Reserves - Would like to see the end to teams consistently getting high scores. So maybe if you concede say 5 goals every player gets minus 100abs (figures just picked out the air). Don't think errors in team sheets will be an issue this year. lets think outside the box. Hearts with a 35,000 stadium - division 3 would make them only get 5,000 of their fans come on!!!!!!!! the attendances is just an added thing to the team. the teams with big stadiums have obviously paid big to get them big in the long run, so why should it matter what league they are in? ticket prices are lower as you go down the leagues anyway. i am not sure why attendances has now become a problem to some Think you've missed my point, what I'm saying is Elite = 150,000 max fans Div 1 = 135,000 Div 2 = 120,000 Div 3 = 105,000 Then it goes on performance, hope that's clearer
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Post by johnraggett on Jul 21, 2012 22:02:36 GMT
People, Personally I think all players should be capped at a max 40 RTD. Other games I have played this. I that all positions should be looked at and adjusted to real life situation, there are to many Wayne Rooneys if you understand my meaning. The older the players get ie 32-33 rerate down - if this already done forget it. Tactic T - Is fair and agree to maybe bring in a financial penalty to. But only if a second consetutive sheet is missed etc... 100K for an error. FA Cup - No seedings. Make it more interesting and could get a few shock results. Attendances - I think need to be adjusted according to the Division and stature of the club and the opposition. Playoffs - I agree to stop this 2 up 2 down. Just to add an extra thing as we bringing things up. How about increasing the number of teams in each division to make two or three divisions. I have another thought about rerating all players but I think that may upset to many people. Feel free to criticise. Shock results like Marseille in the final? ; ) ;D ;D Surely no seeding makes a bit of sense, certainly for the lower leagued clubs, imagine 4 elite clubs getting paired together, would open it up loads, I'd also only have the 2nd round opponent known and random draw after that. That's why I prefer the older current cup set up, even if it's for less cash.
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Post by garfy on Jul 22, 2012 11:06:21 GMT
After reading what we have so far I would:
Scrap T in favour of nil points nil abs
Scrap play offs
Cap keepers at 39 skill
Open draw for fa cup
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